Monday, March 4, 2013

My Search for the Perfect GI.... The Never Ending Saga

Since 4 / 27 / 2009 when I took my first Jiu Jitsu class I knew I had found something that I would enjoying doing more than just going to the closet LA Fitness and "go to the Gym." As a matter of fact, for almost 2 years prior to walking into GB Orlando, I was locked into a Gym Membership at LA fitness. I consistently thought that if I would cancel the membership I would not go, but the joke was on me because I did not go even though every month $42.00 was being debited from my bank account.

Sometime in June of 2009 I was injured, I took a heel to the back of my knee.This is where all my knee problems started I believe.  It was pretty bad so I took a couple of months off and started training again and I was in constant pain so I would ice it and continue training. It was sometime in January of 2010 when I made the decision I should not train anymore because my knee was getting worse, and I wanted time to heal properly. During that same time Maria and I were preparing for the upcoming arrival of our son, Urijah. When Urijah was born in May, I found out very quickly that BJJ had to immediately be put on hold until the correct time. 

It was until late and I mean late in 2011, December to be exact where I began searching to join another BJJ school. I started training at Alliance Orlando under the tutelage of the likes  Michael Langhi and Bruno Malfacine. In June 2012 I landed in the hospital with Diverticulitis which had me out for Six weeks. Then when I returned in July, I was given the news that I had to stop training because of a torn meniscus. I had the required knee surgery on 8/14, recovered up until  December 1 when I decide my knee had recovered and I would go back to light training. Crazy thin my Doctor said I would have been able to return in October but I wanted to make sure I was healed and not risk injuring myself again. Throughout all this time one thing has been elusive, the perfect Gi.

I have spent so much money looking for the perfect Gi in the past several years that if I told my wife, well lets just say I would have some explaining to do. Let me go on saying that I AM NOT being compensated at all by ANY GI company. If they feel they want to send me a Gi to talk about fit I would be glad to but up until writing this no one has "sent" me a Gi.  I have had many experiences buying Gis, some extremely pleasant and some not so pleasant. Here are the two extremes of my experiences, I will praise one company in particular but I refuse to bad mouth the other. Before I purchased my most recent Gi, The Origin BJJ Gi, I exchanged upwards of 20 emails between myself and them. The customer service was great and they wanted to make sure that if I bought there Gi not only would I be happy but they wanted me to let them know about the fit and if I wasn't happy we would work out a solution. They were very helpful and I do recommend buying there Gis I will expand on that later. Now the worst of my Gi buying experiences was when I emailed a company advising them that their Gi did not fit me I was told "Looks like you need to LOSE WEIGHT or stop doing JIU JITSU!" I understand I am a "BIG" guy and I am build like a Silverback but  there are some things you do not say to a customer, or at least that is what I was taught way back in the day when I was in retail. I am not advocating for political correctness but I just think as a consumer I deserve a little bit of respect since I am funding your dream of selling Gis, or is that to much too ask for.

Now onto the GI REVIEWS (the whole reason why you are here!)

Before we go on here are some thing about my build so that you can take that into consideration on why thing fit me the way they do. I am the epitome of endomoprh, I am 5'9" Tall, I tip the scale at over 300 lbs, from shoulder to shoulder I am 25" wide. Let me discuss the Gis that I have or have had in the past so that my fellow Big Guy could put it all into perspective and so you  wont have to spend the money or time researching Gi companies like I have had to. I am note here to compete with BJJWEKLY Gi Review, GiReviews.Net, Seth From BJJGEARJUNKIE, or even the likes of MEERKATSU all of these guys can buy a Gi from almost anywhere and it will fit, right now that is not me and there is many guys out there like me so hopefully if I can at least help one other BJJ Practioner then my work here is done.


Here are the Gis I own The GB Freebee, A5 Fuji, Ouano Alliance Academy, Gorilla Gear A5XX, Shoyoroll Batch 17 A2H, Origin BJJ 2011 Comp550.



THE GRACIE BARRA FREEBEE                                  $0

This Gi was given to me when I originally signed my 1 year contract. It appears to be a very entry level Single Weave Pakistan made Gi. Its a size A7. When I trained at Gracie I used this Gi in rotation but it never quite fit right and the pants never fit. During my time at Gracie, I purchased white scrub pants and would use that as Gi pants. If this is the only way that you find pants that fits do it but I highly suggest buying more that just one, because they are not made for the constant torture that Jiu Jitsu would but on them so eventually they will rip and you do not want to be mid warm up with a rip running down your crotch. NO PICTURES





FUJI A5 "All Around Gi"                                          $94.00

I purchased my first Blue Fuji A5 Gi weeks after starting BJJ because I soon realized that if you are going to be training on a daily basis Gis need time to dry. The Gi is a mid weight gi and the jacket is very durable. The Gi top although it doesn't close correctly it works for training purposes. You can buy a FUJI GI at there website http://www.fujisports.com/category.aspx?categoryid=7



The A5 pants did not fit me however the A6 pants do. here is a size chart for the pants. 

Pictured with FUJI GI Top and Gorilla GI Pants (Yes I am wearing socks. Its so cold in the D!)



OUANO ALLIANCE ACADEMY GI        Around 100 I think
Fits almost like the Fuji. Its a great Gi a little rough but if you were a rash guard you will be fine.




Pictured with Ouano GI Top and Gorilla GI Pants (Yes I am wearing socks. Its so cold in the D!)






GORILLA GEAR A5XX                         $199.99 + 20 Shipping

It appears that Gorilla Gear has since changed there website and no offer the ability to purchase a GI top and GI Pants as different sizes. The GI I have was one of the Silverback Gi and its cut big for guys like me.
Their sizing chart is also now different but when I purchased the original gi it was a A5XX and I had to have a seamstress remove about 4 inches from each sleeve because it was so long.  THIS IS IMPORTANT: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE CHANGE THE GI COLLARS, BUT BECAUSE MY SILVER BACK GI HAS A VERY THICK COLLAR I WAS UNABLE TO USE IT AT THE IBJJF CHICAGO OPEN. So if you do plan on competing in IBJJF you might want to verify that there new batch of Gis are legal, otherwise you will have to use another GI top.
I really like like this Gi it is 650gr PearlWeave and it was Rash guard material sewn into it. Even though I live in Florida and train during the warmest parts of the day I prefer using a heavier Gi knowing that it may not rip as easily. The Pants 12oz cotton Pants and they are my go to set of Gi pants. The have Pearl Weave material  as part of the gusset. These pants were also crazy long so once I had them hemmed they were perfect. I use them constantly.



My son really wanted to be in this picture.







Pictured with Gorilla GI (Yes I am wearing socks. Its so cold in the D!)


SHOYOROLL A2H                                       $183.15 Shipped
I am a sucker for a beautiful Gi, and as must of you know Shoyoroll does make some sexy looking GIs.
Now I dont know if it is all part of Shoyoroll's business plan but they apparently only make limited number of there Gi per batch release and they sell faster than a bottle of whiskey at an AA meeting. So it was just dumb look that I stumbled upon the release of there  BATCH 17 COMPETITOR it was already sold out in blue so I opted of the white in the hopes that it would fit.When  I received this Gi, I was happier than a pig in mud, the jacket almost fit like a really Gi. The skirt is not too long I loved the stitching, the tap and all the good looking patches. But of course the pants did not fit but that what happen when you are built like Khloe Kardashian. 


I will actually be selling this Gi in the hopes that someone can use it and does not collect dust in my closet .
Notice how the pants don't go all the way.













Pictured with Shoyoroll GI Top and Gorilla GI Pants (Yes I am wearing socks. Its so cold in the D!)



ORIGIN BJJ COMP 550                           $174.95 + 20 Shipping

Here we are to the crown jewel of my Gi closet. The GI top fits like a GI top is suppose to. The skirt length of the top is on point and this Gi close (almost brought a tear to my eye). The pants still don't quite fit but it was explained to me why. On most of you A2H/A2Big the manufacturers take an ordinary A2(regular) pants widen the waist about 4-5 inches and call it a day. The problem lies not in the size of the waist but they do not make the size of the hips or even thighs any bigger, so they pants will work if you have really skinny legs and most of your body weight is up top. So endomorph's we get the shaft once again So earlier I spoke about Origin and why i would recommend them 10 time out of 10 and its not only because of their great customer service but because they are setting up to become the FIRST GI Company to be made right here in the good ole US of A. BUY AMERICAN! Not only are they going to be made in America but they are going to be offering 24 different sizes in pants. Yes 24.  Check it out directly from them ! Also with every Gi you buy you get a sweet looking Rash Guard to match.
Pictured with Origin GI Top and Fuji A6 GI Pants (Yes I am wearing socks. Its so cold in the D!)


Notice hips to wide for pants.





 Matching Origin Rash Guard








Zombie Kimonos 550 (1.0)                                $180 Shipped
I bought this Gi and while it fits very similar to the Origin Gi at the time I was angry about it so I returned it for a full refund (except I still paid for the shipping to and from) So in essence it cost me money to "try" on a Gi. I received my refund almost a week after the Kimono arrived back to them but that was many due to A holiday on a Monday and Debit cards have this thing were the always take forever to process a refund, but debits are immediate. 









28 comments:

  1. Most importantly with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu training you will learn how to perform under pressure, this one will not only impact your Brazilian Jiu Jitsu but more importantly it will impact your life
    vulkan gi

    Thanks

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  2. Thank You Leo very much I am a huge fan!

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  3. Thank you for your review. I hope you are able to continue your training and you are making great progress. Was wondering if the Shoyoroll gi is still available?

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    1. Thank you Elvis. Yes I was Recently promoted to blue belt.

      btw the shoyoroll is on ebay right now http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoyoroll-A2H-Batch-17-The-Competitior-Kimono-Top-/171231446996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27de3087d4

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  4. Hey guys , i have another problem the gi jacket is to small the pants Always fits but the jacket is the worst for me Always go in competion with a gi jacket that's to tight .
    Can you guys help me ?

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    1. Check out Strike Fightwear. There is a guy I train with that has the same problem, and the Grappler fit him nicely.

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  5. Hi, I just saw your blog post. You mentioned that you were looking to sell your Shoyoroll Gi. Are you still selling it? If so, I would be interested in purchasing it - A

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    1. Currently have it listed on EBAY

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoyoroll-A2H-Batch-17-The-Competitior-Kimono-Top-/171231446996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27de3087d4

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  6. Nice, gi review, I am also a super heavy weight bjj/judo practitioner. I own about 12 gi's and I have one that fits off the shelf properly. Its an A-8 competition gi from Pro Force (Not known for its quality gi's) however this gi has lasted me six years and is still going strong. You might also want to try Vulcan A-4 jacket forget the pants they just won't fit but the jacket is perfect. Again I like an A-7 Pro Force pants with the Vulcan jacket. I'm 6'1'' 300lbs.+. purple belt. Best of luck on your quest for your black belt.

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  7. Have you had any luck with other brands since posting this review? I am a woman with the same problem as you. Pants usually fit my waist, but are too tight around my hips and thighs. If the pants fit, I am swimming in the jacket, so much so that it is unwearable. My latest gi is an A2H 93 Brand Tau. The fit isn't too bad, but the rise is too low when I kneel. My best fitting gi has been an A3 Fuji Kassen. I have three other Fuji gis, but need split sizing in those. So frustrating!

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    1. Jenn,
      To the day I have yet to find a GI that fits me out of the box. That being said an Atama A5 is pretty close. While the pants are almost 9 inches too long and the sleeves, I just got to my tailor and here has been doing an amazing job. The problem is buying a gi, to see if you would like the fit (especially because Atama's are so expensive, but if you order of their website the well split sizes for you).

      The real problem is that typically everyone's sizes are different. Why is it that and Atama A5 pants are decent while a pair of Fuji A6 feel can barely make it past the hips? The only time you get a 2 companies with the exact same size, is because they are more than likely using the same supplier.

      I hope this helps

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  8. Did you ever get rid of the Shoyoroll Gi? If not I'm interested in it.

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    1. Funny you should ask, currently it is on EBAY http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoyoroll-A2H-Batch-17-The-Competitior-Kimono-Top-/171231446996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27de3087d4

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  9. hey Jaun,

    Just wanted to let you know we've updated our size chart a few times since you order your gi from gorilla fight gear our new sizing runs from B-2XL up to B-5XL i think the gi you have in this review has a simular cut to our current B-3XL. We even do custom gis as well so if you want a completely custom gi to your very own size chart we can do that for you.

    here is a quick video of our new 2XL on top of our B-5XL
    http://youtu.be/PZdQ5pvTsl4

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  10. Hey there. I was wondering what size are your street clothes. I'm a big guy looking for a new BJJ gi but want to do a bit of research before dropping money on one. I have an A5 tatami nova which is a bit too small for me and an A6 Padilla and Sons which is not too bad. (Pants are a little tight, though. I have big thighs).

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  11. Thanks for the pics that is really what i was looking for. Hard to tell the fit without a picture. We are built similar so the pics point me in the right direction. Thanks again.

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  12. A lot of great help! Have you heard of fat boy BJJ his his are hands down the best the fit like a glove. Only draw back he is out of stock at the point and I have no clue when he will get more. But the pants have more room in the croch area, long strings so you can tie it right (a lot of other his short tie strings. The jacket is light weight and very strong. I love my fat boy gi. I need a new one because the studio I'm starting to go to only want blue and white. My gi is black which I use at my BJJ club but I was at the point I wanted more so how I'm a big guy looking for the right gi.

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    1. HEAVY JIU JITSU GUY was the first iteration of fat boy jiu jitsu.

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  13. It's now 2017 and I had to RETURN a Gorilla fight gear "silverback" gi in size 5bxl because it is TOO SMALL! Unless you are under 6 feet tall and have a torso as wide as it is long the new batch 4 is overpriced crap from Pakistan!! You can get 5 of your own ill fitting gi's made from the same factory for less money!! The pants have all the durability of tear away basketball pants! I emailed in my measurements since there are none on the website and was ignored when I said the jacket HAS TO BE LONGER THAN 37 INCHES OR IT WON'T STAY CLOSED!! simply pissed off at the complete lack of quality control at gorilla fight gear and have to eat return shipping charges! They had better honour their "no hassle return policy"

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    1. This is FAT BOY JIU JTSU, this was my old blog before. check out my site www.fatboybjj.com I JUST DROPPED GIS TODAY and they are selling quick

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  14. As soon as that lying cocksucker Mike Benjamin refunds my money as per the "no hassle returns" on his website gorillagear.ca, I'll be able to buy a gi! I wish I had read this forum BEFORE sending money to gorilla gear! I can clearly read where you state you bought the biggest gi possible 5xl. Then rip off mike writes in here trying to cover his lies stating you got only a 3xl!?! I think you know what size you purchased, you paid for it! Good thing you didn't return it, you'd be out $265 and no gi! My first clue gorilla gear IS a SCAM website was the promise of free shipping for orders over $200! At checkout a shipping charge popped up! There are no size charts on the website for the "silverback" gi, just hype like " if you're 6 foot 4 inched tall and 400 lbs, the 5bxl is for you" BULLSHIT! Look at how the 5xl you have fits! Learn from my mistake and boycott gorilla gear dot ca. I have family in Winnipeg, maybe I'll pay mike a visit someday!

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  17. It has been very frustrating trying to find an affordable uniform for Taekwondo. I am #415 and only 5'7 but I love doing the classes with my son! My teacher ordered the largest size he could get, an 8, and it wasn't even close.

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